January 14, 2021 Working Group call
Summary
- Our Working Vision is final. Rec Sports feedback doesn’t change it.
- We’ll work with Rec Sports on short-term development needs
- We’ll ask Rec Sports about how best to manage remainder of our vision
Further meeting detail
Present
- Tianna Kilgore
- James Wilber
- Tom Warburton
- George Janke
- Tom Warburton
- Jamie Frech
- Sam Taylordean
- Kevin Cunningham
- Andrew Swain
- Ben Shapiro
- Jacob Bodner
- Vanessa Rojano
- Karl Seibert
- John Palladino
- Nate Fisher
- Matt Trenary
Detailed notes
- Trenary: Issue at hand: How best to keep the entirely of our vision while also utilizing Rec Sports help
- Swain: Doesn’t see a reason not to use Rec Sports help
- Wilber: Full vision will take long-term management, like handling major donors
- Swain: Is there a model for Rec Sports + Athletics?
- Trenary: Lacrosse is closest but the men took the existing team and disregarded club setup
- Frech: The vision is the vision. This doesn’t change that
- Trenary: Agree
- Warburton: Are there issues with including things when they’re not guaranteed? Don’t want to mislead.
- Trenary: Likely why Rec Sports doesn’t want Elbel included specifically
- Karl: They want a well-funded club that’s the same as now. So we should be careful including other stuff that doesn’t fit.
- Wilber: Need some role definition. Could get pulled different ways.
- Trenary: So continue with short-term target of trainers/endowment?
- Wilber: If trainers are obtained and are off the list, do we lose the story?
- Trenary: To me it shows progress.
- Bodner: But do we hit the end of the road with RS? And then need to go private, etc.
- Swain: Is there really anything stopping us from going in parallel right now right?
- Seibert: But Rec Sports presents their world, not ours. Could this leave potential high-donor amounts on the table? Or at worse, conflict?
- Seibert: Do we have an idea of money amount?
- Trenary: Mention of 6 to 7 to 8 figure donors
- Cunningham: We need to be careful. Lots of politics here.
- Wilber: 2021 trainers through Rec Sports could better inform our decisions for years 2-5
- Karl: Similar setup with WCBN a few years ago. Uncovered a $50k unaffiliated donor who just liked college radio.
- Trenary: Have heard of discovering unknown yet significant donors at ND
- Cunningham: The vision is good, don’t compromise! But need somone on the inside.
- Frech: Yep, Rec Sports wants to make us fit in their box. Don’t compromise.
- Trenary: Spoke to David Canter today. Was impressed and figured Athletics was where things would blossom.
- Cunningham: The lack of university-employed coaching is already an area where we’re butting heads
- Seibert: Other possible inside connections?
- Wilber: Other programs contacts back to Michigan?
- Trenary: Still missing Athletics contact
- Jamie: More granular detail on lacrosse path? Money, timeline, etc.
- Trenary: So what’s the path here
- Seibert:
- Segment the conversations
- Let Rec Sports talk to people we have no relationship with. Let Development do their work.
- We talk to who we know
- Swain: Cultivate the “passion players”. Doesn’t have to be one or the other.
- Wilber:
- How to tell our story. How the vision will come to life in 2021. Digital presence, etc.
- How we deliberately mine 10-year development relationships.
- Don’t want to circulate multiple visions. But can grow these conversations/relationships.
- Seibert: For a Rec Sports version, what parts can be long-term there? Why are we asking for so much if the big parts are out?
- Warburton: Could give Rec Sports MR25 or something, and we grow MR30 for longer-term stuff.
- Frech: I like it. Next steps are piloting or segmenting as Karl said.
- Frech: It’s the same Rec Sports process with the women. Should we align stuff now?
- Trenary: I think so.
- Frech: Good time to start up conversations with RS.
- Tiana: Endowment finalization.
- Karl: Yeah, MR25/30. Could really be 1 or 2 people is the difference between the realization of the visions.
- Palladino: Full steam ahead with what Rec Sports can give us. No where to go but up.
- Have to be disciplined to stay true to the long-term vision.
- 2021, have some things to go for. But break out for all the other stuff.
- Start Athletics relationship on good foot. But no reason to throttle back.
- Taylordean: Rec Sports will give us access with people we don’t know. So why not?
- Wilber: MRF fit
- Trenary: MRF expanding board and is primed to take on some of these initiatives
- Trenary: Summary:
- Vision doesn’t change
- We’ll talk to Rec Sports about segmentation and how to maintain our full vision
- Seibert: Drafting sanitized version for Rec Sports is a next step