January 14, 2021 Working Group call


Summary

  • Our Working Vision is final. Rec Sports feedback doesn’t change it.
  • We’ll work with Rec Sports on short-term development needs
  • We’ll ask Rec Sports about how best to manage remainder of our vision

Further meeting detail

Present

  • Tianna Kilgore
  • James Wilber
  • Tom Warburton
  • George Janke
  • Tom Warburton
  • Jamie Frech
  • Sam Taylordean
  • Kevin Cunningham
  • Andrew Swain
  • Ben Shapiro
  • Jacob Bodner
  • Vanessa Rojano
  • Karl Seibert
  • John Palladino
  • Nate Fisher
  • Matt Trenary

Detailed notes

  • Trenary: Issue at hand: How best to keep the entirely of our vision while also utilizing Rec Sports help
    • Swain: Doesn’t see a reason not to use Rec Sports help
    • Wilber: Full vision will take long-term management, like handling major donors
  • Swain: Is there a model for Rec Sports + Athletics?
    • Trenary: Lacrosse is closest but the men took the existing team and disregarded club setup
  • Frech: The vision is the vision. This doesn’t change that
    • Trenary: Agree
    • Warburton: Are there issues with including things when they’re not guaranteed? Don’t want to mislead.
      • Trenary: Likely why Rec Sports doesn’t want Elbel included specifically
      • Karl: They want a well-funded club that’s the same as now. So we should be careful including other stuff that doesn’t fit.
      • Wilber: Need some role definition. Could get pulled different ways.
  • Trenary: So continue with short-term target of trainers/endowment?
    • Wilber: If trainers are obtained and are off the list, do we lose the story?
      • Trenary: To me it shows progress.
        • Bodner: But do we hit the end of the road with RS? And then need to go private, etc.
    • Swain: Is there really anything stopping us from going in parallel right now right?
      • Seibert: But Rec Sports presents their world, not ours. Could this leave potential high-donor amounts on the table? Or at worse, conflict?
        • Seibert: Do we have an idea of money amount?
          • Trenary: Mention of 6 to 7 to 8 figure donors
      • Cunningham: We need to be careful. Lots of politics here.
      • Wilber: 2021 trainers through Rec Sports could better inform our decisions for years 2-5
      • Karl: Similar setup with WCBN a few years ago. Uncovered a $50k unaffiliated donor who just liked college radio.
        • Trenary: Have heard of discovering unknown yet significant donors at ND
  • Cunningham: The vision is good, don’t compromise! But need somone on the inside.
    • Frech: Yep, Rec Sports wants to make us fit in their box. Don’t compromise.
      • Trenary: Spoke to David Canter today. Was impressed and figured Athletics was where things would blossom.
    • Cunningham: The lack of university-employed coaching is already an area where we’re butting heads
    • Seibert: Other possible inside connections?
      • Wilber: Other programs contacts back to Michigan?
        • Trenary: Still missing Athletics contact
      • Jamie: More granular detail on lacrosse path? Money, timeline, etc.
  • Trenary: So what’s the path here
    • Seibert:
      • Segment the conversations
        • Let Rec Sports talk to people we have no relationship with. Let Development do their work.
        • We talk to who we know
    • Swain: Cultivate the “passion players”. Doesn’t have to be one or the other.
    • Wilber:
      • How to tell our story. How the vision will come to life in 2021. Digital presence, etc.
      • How we deliberately mine 10-year development relationships.
      • Don’t want to circulate multiple visions. But can grow these conversations/relationships.
    • Seibert: For a Rec Sports version, what parts can be long-term there? Why are we asking for so much if the big parts are out?
      • Warburton: Could give Rec Sports MR25 or something, and we grow MR30 for longer-term stuff.
      • Frech: I like it. Next steps are piloting or segmenting as Karl said.
  • Frech: It’s the same Rec Sports process with the women. Should we align stuff now?
    • Trenary: I think so.
    • Frech: Good time to start up conversations with RS.
      • Tiana: Endowment finalization.
  • Karl: Yeah, MR25/30. Could really be 1 or 2 people is the difference between the realization of the visions.
  • Palladino: Full steam ahead with what Rec Sports can give us. No where to go but up.
    • Have to be disciplined to stay true to the long-term vision.
    • 2021, have some things to go for. But break out for all the other stuff.
    • Start Athletics relationship on good foot. But no reason to throttle back.
  • Taylordean: Rec Sports will give us access with people we don’t know. So why not?
  • Wilber: MRF fit
    • Trenary: MRF expanding board and is primed to take on some of these initiatives
  • Trenary: Summary:
    • Vision doesn’t change
    • We’ll talk to Rec Sports about segmentation and how to maintain our full vision
    • Seibert: Drafting sanitized version for Rec Sports is a next step