July 9, 2020 Working Group Call
Summary
Aligned on
- Long-term vision includes separate varsity and club teams, all under the Michigan Rugby umbrella
- Main focus, especially in the short-term, is on the individual elements of a successful program (e.g., admissions, facility, coaching, etc.)
- Can reassess years into vision
- Men and women should collaborate
- Clarity of vision and mechanics of fundraising will determine exact collaboration
- Intro presentation for Rec Sports development team is ready to share
Other significant notes
- Cadence of monthly calls and weekly email works
Further meeting detail
Present
- Jake Bodner
- Jared Bosma
- Kevin Cunningham
- Wes Farrow
- Jeff Hagan
- Mike Lisi
- John Moore
- Vanessa Rojano
- Karl Seibert
- Ben Shapiro
- Matt Trenary
Detailed notes
- Outreach
- Palladino doing a great job involving 2010s players and some are joining the Bench
- Trenary reached out to some 2000s players
- Bodner and Trenary led a Zoom with the current team
- Positive and receptive
- Some explicit support of varsity+club
- General support for increased competitiveness
- All are encouraged to contact their network for feedback or interest
- Cadence
- Monthly calls should be set going forward. Roughly second Thursdays at 8p.
- Weekly emails work
- Slack also an option if anyone is interested
- Intro presentation to Rec Sports development team
- The Rec Sports development team is Kyle Nowels and Lexi Chaput
- Lexi is a friend and supporter of our team’s work. Used to work in Club Sports, now in development position for Rec Sports.
- Kyle is in development for Student Life. Very helpful and responsive with alumni info and development insight.
- Our giving history and good behavior helps us develop these relationships
- Women’s team is also working with them
- Seibert: How will they react to desire of varsity?
- Trenary:
- This is one of our questions in the presentation.
- They will definitely continue to support club development but they won’t help raise funds for another department.
- Regardless, will help us with questions revolving around fundraising timeline / mechanics
- Cunningham:
- Presentation is great
- I see this process as three steps
- Clarify/define mission
- Clarify strategy to get there
- Raise funds
- How do St. Mary’s and BYU succeed as club teams?
- Trenary:
- Their club sports is under Athletics so there are lots of benefits/resources
- They’ve adopted a varsity mindset, possibly to the detriment of new/participatory players
- Seibert:
- They have the players
- Arkansas State for example is a club but provides in-state tuition for out-of-state players, and then they recruit South Africans.
- BYU has polynesian influence
- Other teams have similar financial support but are in 20-30 range of rankings
- Discussion on pursuing varsity+club in parallel with pursuing individual elements of successful programs
- Seibert:
- Many individual elements are doable now with money
- Admissions assistance is key though and that makes me supportive of varsity+club
- Hagan:
- Admissions issue is astounding
- Curious about women’s perspective
- Rojano: Admissions support would be great. We have the same issue.
- Shapiro: Is there any other way to get admissions assistance?
- Trenary: Other ways would be unprecedented. Though can’t rule out personal connections with influential people.
- Moore: Are there other examples of teams moving to varsity, like lacrosse?
- Trenary:
- Lacrosse is a good analogy because men and women moved together. I can share some intel on the process.
- Main factor is money. (A big reason why Stanford cut 11 sports yesterday.)
- Trenary: How do we make this decision about varsity+club and parallel individual element pursuits? I want to provide space for dissent.
- Farrow: Seems like a good idea to pursue what we need right now while still pursuing varsity
- Trenary: Agree on short-term pursuits. But do we need to make that big decision now?
- Seibert:
- So many people can say no on varsity. And if they do, then we continue to pursue individual elements
- But do we include this varsity aspiration? I think we should.
- Hagan:
- Agree
- It’s not like if we miss varsity we lose the rest
- Can always change down the line
- Is the issue the potential of turning people off? Not too worried about it.
- Trenary:
- Yeah, mostly worried about turning people off
- But your answer is good. It doesn’t change short-term objectives
- Shapiro: What would the affiliation/integration between varsity and club teams look like?
- Trenary:
- Good question. Michigan Rugby and rugby overall have always valued community. No one wants to split the community.
- There’s potential for some crossover of players either direction or even to the men’s club or helping coach the high school team after graduating
- This is atypical as compared to say lacrosse where the club team just moved up
- There will be a clear separation since the teams would be in different departments
- Facility should be able to be used by both
- Farrow: Could make sense for a varsity 7s team and a club 15s team given Olympics, etc.
- Trenary: Have thought of this as well. Definitely potential though the model doesn’t currently exist.
- Trenary:
- Summary is that varsity is in the timeline but we’ll pursue individual elements
- Reach out to network for feedback
- Women may be on different varsity timeline
- Discussion of men’s and women’s collaboration and any concerns of donor solicitation for joint campaign
- Cunningham:
- Depends on vision and target. Needs to be clear.
- Sees the MRF as a place to give and the MRF can coordinate how to best support
- Farrow:
- Clarification that the current endowment is not in the MRF
- Cunningham: Does U have a say in how we use endowment?
- Farrow:
- Yes. We couldn’t use the U endowment to buy land in Ann Arbor for example.
- Having an endowment within the MRF would provide control but it doesn’t currently exist.
- Trenary:
- Yes, though that doesn’t really limit what we use it on as a club sport
- Technically a quasi-endowment so could potentially be used for large things within the U in the future, but that’s not how it was chartered
- Seibert:
- Crisp vision is important
- We should work together no matter the pursuit of varsity
- Cal men financially assist other women’s teams on campus
- Lisi:
- 501(c)(3) status needs diversity of benefactors, like supporting the women’s team in addition to the men
- Farrow:
- Beneficiary pool for single sport is generally good enough
- But strategically it’s good to address support of women
- Lisi:
- Collaboration is good anyways
- Men’s alumni size and depth would help with women, varsity pursuit, field, etc.
- Project timeline
- Main items
- Clarification of varsity pursuit
- Establish initial timeline
- Prioritize field/fieldhouse
- Clarify collaboration between men and women
- Made progress on some of these tonight
- From these we can clarify vision and estimate fundraising goal
- Summary
- Varsity in vision but not the only goal
- Continue collaboration progress between men and women
- Reach out to your network
- Monthly calls, weekly emails, Slack if you want it
- Trenary to provide notes and updates