July 9, 2020 Working Group Call


Summary

Aligned on

  • Long-term vision includes separate varsity and club teams, all under the Michigan Rugby umbrella
    • Main focus, especially in the short-term, is on the individual elements of a successful program (e.g., admissions, facility, coaching, etc.)
    • Can reassess years into vision
  • Men and women should collaborate
    • Clarity of vision and mechanics of fundraising will determine exact collaboration
  • Intro presentation for Rec Sports development team is ready to share

Other significant notes

  • Cadence of monthly calls and weekly email works

Further meeting detail

Present

  • Jake Bodner
  • Jared Bosma
  • Kevin Cunningham
  • Wes Farrow
  • Jeff Hagan
  • Mike Lisi
  • John Moore
  • Vanessa Rojano
  • Karl Seibert
  • Ben Shapiro
  • Matt Trenary

Detailed notes

  • Outreach
    • Palladino doing a great job involving 2010s players and some are joining the Bench
    • Trenary reached out to some 2000s players
    • Bodner and Trenary led a Zoom with the current team
      • Positive and receptive
      • Some explicit support of varsity+club
      • General support for increased competitiveness
    • All are encouraged to contact their network for feedback or interest
  • Cadence
    • Monthly calls should be set going forward. Roughly second Thursdays at 8p.
    • Weekly emails work
    • Slack also an option if anyone is interested
  • Intro presentation to Rec Sports development team
    • The Rec Sports development team is Kyle Nowels and Lexi Chaput
      • Lexi is a friend and supporter of our team’s work. Used to work in Club Sports, now in development position for Rec Sports.
      • Kyle is in development for Student Life. Very helpful and responsive with alumni info and development insight.
      • Our giving history and good behavior helps us develop these relationships
      • Women’s team is also working with them
    • Seibert: How will they react to desire of varsity?
      • Trenary:
        • This is one of our questions in the presentation.
        • They will definitely continue to support club development but they won’t help raise funds for another department.
        • Regardless, will help us with questions revolving around fundraising timeline / mechanics
      • Cunningham:
        • Presentation is great
        • I see this process as three steps
          • Clarify/define mission
          • Clarify strategy to get there
          • Raise funds
        • How do St. Mary’s and BYU succeed as club teams?
          • Trenary:
            • Their club sports is under Athletics so there are lots of benefits/resources
            • They’ve adopted a varsity mindset, possibly to the detriment of new/participatory players
          • Seibert:
            • They have the players
              • Arkansas State for example is a club but provides in-state tuition for out-of-state players, and then they recruit South Africans.
              • BYU has polynesian influence
            • Other teams have similar financial support but are in 20-30 range of rankings
  • Discussion on pursuing varsity+club in parallel with pursuing individual elements of successful programs
    • Seibert:
      • Many individual elements are doable now with money
      • Admissions assistance is key though and that makes me supportive of varsity+club
    • Hagan:
      • Admissions issue is astounding
      • Curious about women’s perspective
    • Rojano: Admissions support would be great. We have the same issue.
    • Shapiro: Is there any other way to get admissions assistance?
      • Trenary: Other ways would be unprecedented. Though can’t rule out personal connections with influential people.
    • Moore: Are there other examples of teams moving to varsity, like lacrosse?
      • Trenary:
        • Lacrosse is a good analogy because men and women moved together. I can share some intel on the process.
        • Main factor is money. (A big reason why Stanford cut 11 sports yesterday.)
    • Trenary: How do we make this decision about varsity+club and parallel individual element pursuits? I want to provide space for dissent.
      • Farrow: Seems like a good idea to pursue what we need right now while still pursuing varsity
        • Trenary: Agree on short-term pursuits. But do we need to make that big decision now?
      • Seibert:
        • So many people can say no on varsity. And if they do, then we continue to pursue individual elements
        • But do we include this varsity aspiration? I think we should.
      • Hagan:
        • Agree
        • It’s not like if we miss varsity we lose the rest
        • Can always change down the line
        • Is the issue the potential of turning people off? Not too worried about it.
          • Trenary:
            • Yeah, mostly worried about turning people off
            • But your answer is good. It doesn’t change short-term objectives
      • Shapiro: What would the affiliation/integration between varsity and club teams look like?
        • Trenary:
          • Good question. Michigan Rugby and rugby overall have always valued community. No one wants to split the community.
          • There’s potential for some crossover of players either direction or even to the men’s club or helping coach the high school team after graduating
          • This is atypical as compared to say lacrosse where the club team just moved up
          • There will be a clear separation since the teams would be in different departments
          • Facility should be able to be used by both
        • Farrow: Could make sense for a varsity 7s team and a club 15s team given Olympics, etc.
          • Trenary: Have thought of this as well. Definitely potential though the model doesn’t currently exist.
      • Trenary:
        • Summary is that varsity is in the timeline but we’ll pursue individual elements
        • Reach out to network for feedback
        • Women may be on different varsity timeline
  • Discussion of men’s and women’s collaboration and any concerns of donor solicitation for joint campaign
    • Cunningham:
      • Depends on vision and target. Needs to be clear.
      • Sees the MRF as a place to give and the MRF can coordinate how to best support
    • Farrow:
      • Clarification that the current endowment is not in the MRF
        • Cunningham: Does U have a say in how we use endowment?
          • Farrow:
            • Yes. We couldn’t use the U endowment to buy land in Ann Arbor for example.
            • Having an endowment within the MRF would provide control but it doesn’t currently exist.
          • Trenary:
            • Yes, though that doesn’t really limit what we use it on as a club sport
            • Technically a quasi-endowment so could potentially be used for large things within the U in the future, but that’s not how it was chartered
    • Seibert:
      • Crisp vision is important
      • We should work together no matter the pursuit of varsity
      • Cal men financially assist other women’s teams on campus
    • Lisi:
      • 501(c)(3) status needs diversity of benefactors, like supporting the women’s team in addition to the men
    • Farrow:
      • Beneficiary pool for single sport is generally good enough
      • But strategically it’s good to address support of women
    • Lisi:
      • Collaboration is good anyways
      • Men’s alumni size and depth would help with women, varsity pursuit, field, etc.
  • Project timeline
    • Main items
      • Clarification of varsity pursuit
      • Establish initial timeline
      • Prioritize field/fieldhouse
      • Clarify collaboration between men and women
    • Made progress on some of these tonight
    • From these we can clarify vision and estimate fundraising goal
  • Summary
    • Varsity in vision but not the only goal
    • Continue collaboration progress between men and women
    • Reach out to your network
    • Monthly calls, weekly emails, Slack if you want it
    • Trenary to provide notes and updates